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that ted rogers put there for nixon and he said, don't let anybody change this. cong up, miclle obama voting binin ohio. early i said, get out of the way or i'm going to call the police. he immediately left and i changed the air conditioning back to normal. wilson understand the game and > in the big finh, more how it was going to be played. republicanock the vo the candidates had their jobs to efforts are uncovered here in lorado. do, so did their handlers. he said his opponent, he said, we'll ve the detai i'l and talk wh the chrman of the decraticarty. he wanted to keep his job stay tun. 're right back. because of the screw-up that happened in the first debate. this is what goes on in politics. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. tomorrow i'll be in denver. we'll have live editions of "hardball" at 5:00 and 7:00 eastern. and complete coverage of the debate with my msnbc colleagues at 8:00. "the ed show" starts right now. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show." 25 hours before the first presidential debate and 35 days until the 2012 election. mitt romney and paul ryan are scrambling. robert gibbs is here tonight to respond. this is "the ed show." let's get to work.
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you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction and can fill a that bucket, if you will. >> mitt romney breaks out the golden bucket to save his budget. tonight, obama campaign's senior adviser on mitt romney's fuzzy math. sleep train's inventory clearance sale devastating new poll numbers ends columbus day. show mitt romney's secret video geyenancing on tempur-pedic. is crushing his campaign. save 10%, 20%, even 35% >> i'll never convince them they should take personal on a huge selection of simmons and sealy clearance mattresses. responsibility. >> richard wolffe on how even get free delivery! aggressive the president needs e to be on the 47% tape. don't miss 3 years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. the inventory clearance sale ends monday. mitt romney's billionaire superior service, best selection, base is starting to lose their cool. lowest price, guaranteed. >> we need leadership, not ♪ sleep train criticism. ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ we need encouragement, not discouragement. >> e.j. deon on why billionaires who do so well under obama can't stand the president. and democrats with a victory for voters in pennsylvania, but
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republican voter fraud is getting swept under the rug here in colorado. tonight the latest on the rnc's voter fraud scandal. good to have you with us. thanks for watching. we're coming to you tr from denver, colorado. the first presidential debate one day away. this is the romney pre-game show. will mitt romney be held accountable for lies and distortions about president obama's record? we got a sneak preview of what happens when mitt romney is forced to tell the truth. a fox affiliate here in denver asked romney to explain what paul ryan could not, how he plans to pay for $5 trillion tax are bk. cut by only eliminating eavoting kicked off the deductions. battlegroundta of ohio da are red voters. >> there's an option. the buckeye state looking . you could say everybody is going to get up to a deduction and you but attemp to kill off early vong by republicans have obama supporters camd out at could use your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction and fill that bucket, if you will, the $17,000 bucket polling stationsround ohio that way and higher income
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people might have a lower last night as partf the slee number. >> at least the plan has a name. it's the bucket plan. mitt romney will cap deductions t the vote effort. polls ofcially opened at 8:0 at $17,000 for all americans. a.m. this morning and thousands of voters have already cast their ballots. this is good news for president oba as early voters favor mocrats. is that good for the middle first day voter turnover in class? do the math. lucas county doubled that in for rich americans, the cap, it 2008. just might be lower than that. he was very vague on that point of the 928 vot tre were as well. the big problem with romney's bucket plan besides being 696 democrats, 40 republicans, hilarious is it would only cover 192 with no affiation. $1 to $2 trillion of the $5 trillion tax cut. mielle obaired up voters in cincinnati today. she waed supporterthe figh. that's according to the tax policy center. they figured it out. even when romney gives specifics >> earlyr1 voting starts tay.. he doesn't answer the questions. e we still don't know how he we need you to sign up to make phoncalls,o knock on drsto helpo plans to pay for the tax cuts without hurting the middle class. paul ryan is sticking to his reason for not giving any to tu k to everybody you specifics to chris wallace on know fox news. mi them at'st ake in he said he had no time. this electio >> i'm going to give you the time now to answer the question. shortly after that, the obama mplying
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>> when i start getting the numbers. voters in cincinnati >> that's right. >> ryan was given the time by president obama's mpaign i bloomberg television. simply outworking the romney camp in ohio. thffices d he had a new excuse for not compared to 36 for rney. being specific. 38% of the ohio vote was cast he says mitt romney can't show congress all of his cards before he gets elected. early bere the ection in 2008.%. >> you don't say to congress to democrats you want to work with, take it or leave it. it's all my way or the highway. you say here's my framework. in their power to block the vote obviously, the numbers add up. in ohio, but thanks toolid work from the ama campaign, we have shone that. eir efforts are failing early >> hang on a second. . ryan says they have shown these the latest quinnc numbers and shown how they work. ama with a 10-inlead over folks, they have not. it's impossible to show how numbers work when you refuse to but beware. provide the numbers. michael delaware caucus had the this is what the debate ad back in 198 moderator and the american this is a long haul, but it's a people need to watch out for great star tomorrow night to be on guard night in our svey, i asked will mitt romney continue his campaign of lies at tomoow's against. the romney campaign shows time debate? and time again that they are willing to flat out lie whenever it just suits the evening, when >>ng u> comi the good news and bad news for voters. a key court casend voter
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it suits them just fine, they will throw it out there and hope it sticks to the wall. most of the keystones to regist scandal. romney's campaign are based on lies and distortions. detail when is we come back. @$ let's go through them all. romney says president obama stole billions from medicare. the president cut wasteful spending. romney's camp created an entire ad campaign about president obama revoking the work requirement from welfare. the ads were totally debunked but romney kept airing them any way and stands by them today. good debate talk tomorrow night. mitt romney says he's going to repeal obama care and replace it with something to keep people from being uninsured. but an analysis from the commonwealth fund shows mitt romney would leave 72 million more people uninsured, 12 million higher than before obama care. recently mitt romney said his campaign never ran any intentionally false advertising. we have been ab chutely spot-on, he said.
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any time there's anything that's been a miss we correct it or remove it. i kind of talk like romney, don't i? this is coming from a guy whose first campaign ad against barack obama presented a quote about john mccain and pretended that president obama was saying it about himself. they defended the ad as honest. romney is running on his business create. he says he created 100,000 jobs as the ce ork as bain. he claimed he had no involvement with managing bain after 1999. but wait a minute. sec filings show him as the ceo and sole stake holder in the company for three additional years. now during those years, what happened? thousands of people were laid off in the bain companies while mitt romney profited. speaking of bain, romney says he's going to get tough on china
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as president if he's elected. even though his recent tax returns show that he was making investment money all from chinese internet companies accused of stealing american content. he says president obama apologizes for america overseas even though not a single transcript ever shows him apologizing. when mitt romney had a chance to weigh in on the international incident, what did he do? he accused president obama of sympathizing with american enemies. back here at home, romney says the stimulus did not create a single job even though the budget office says it created as 3.3 million jobs. we got more. president obama raised taxes on the the middle class until last week when he slipped up and said president obama never raised taxes but will raise them soon. it was mitt romney who said let detroit go bankrupt.
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then he saw what happened after the automobile loan from the federal government saved 1.5 million american jobs and ohio's economy. and all of a sudden, mitt romney says the auto loan, that was just a good idea. and mitt romney says he will be the president for all americans. don't forget that. even though he was caught on tape saying he can never convince 47% of americans to take responsibility for themselves. this is why mitt romney can't be let off the hook in the debate tomorrow night. but it's hard to press him on these issues when he doesn't even answer the questions. here it is. >> what is the biggest misconception about you in the public debate right now? >> we'll have to create more jobs, have less debt and shrink the size of government. in the big finh tonight, the republicans suffered a setback in court. >> misconceptions about you? republics in pennia ylva tried to suppress the vote tough voter >> you get to ask the questions it could have kept at least you want and i get to give the answers i want. 758,000 people from voting. but today the judge blocked a >> i hope there's a moment like that tomorrow night. key part of the law. not going to be easy for jim
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lehrer. even if romney won't answer for his ruling means voters will be asked r an i. but they can go ahead and vote them, it needs to be spelled out without one. thruling only covers thi loud and clear to the american people who have been lied to. election. the decision is bad news for mitt romney has not been repuicanin pennsylvani straight with americans on where r thearlie year one of the he stands and where he wants to party leaders boasted the law take the country and there's no would help mitt romney win the better platform than for the election. president to take him to the house. >> voter i.d., whi is gog to how can you expect him to be allow mitt romney to win the straight with you as president state of pennsylvania, done. >> pennsylvania is just one of when he can't even run his own campaign? 41 stateto pass rerictive get your cell phones out. tonight's question, will mitt romney continue his campaign of lies at tomorrow's debate? new voting laws since president obama won in 2008. text a for yes or b or no. so far 17 states have you can always go to our blog. successfully pasd restrictive we'll bring you the results votesing laws since president later on in the show. oba won the white hous republicans in ohio tried joining me is robert gibbs, senior obama campaign adviser. great to have you with us e gop tried to purge the voter tonight. roles in florida. there's so much meat on the bones here. the republicans have cimed all we have laid out all of the along they are try stop distortions and the lies that we voter fraud. but look what happens. have seen from the romney it turns outhey are the ones campaign. who were cheating.
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a t out the vote scandal is there's a lot of target-rich rocking the republican p. sttegic allied consulting s er . environment for president obama. what about this tax plan. now theyre firinthe firm. is president obama obligated to florida has turned up 100 suspicious voterorms and in colorado one worker was caught on tape claiming s worked r supporters to point out to them that this is flawed? what do you think? >> i think the moderators are going e to ask governor romney about a lot of the things that you just talked about. you work for romney i hope the moderator gives governor romney a chance to do >> i thought you we rej sterg voters. what paul ryan said he didn't >> i am. have time to do and that is who areou registering? explain how they pay for a $5 trillion tax cut. all voters? >> i'm trying to register people as you pointed out, ed, it is a for a particular party because time problem that is vexing in this budget. we're out here in support of romney actually. it's a math problem. >> who is paying you for this? they can't pay for it. if they can't pay for it, then >> let me see, we're wki for they are going to raise taxes on the middle class. thcounty clerk's office. that's what the economic studies have shown. >> that went viral. sttegic lied consuing and ens any wrg doing veo and look, i don't know anybody
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who thinks we're another tax cut whatsoever. for a millionaire away from a here's the bottom line. stronger middle class. the republicans talk about preventi voter fraud but they et that's just not how we have built our economy before and it's not how we're going to caught doing t cheating. continue to make our country on the debate moderator to do joining me tonight is rick polasio, chairman of the present be democratic party. itill ?e >> ihink the debate morato there' think the president will push re in the statofolorado. back pticularly on some of why isn't voter registration, this scandal, getting more these budget and tax issues. i have no doubthey are going tention this n ts state? to get a chance to talk about e b and mitt romney is >> it shld be getting more wanting to letetroit go bankpt. and i think the president looks attention. towards tomorrow as a great it's outrageous th the opportunity to have a long repuicrted history of committin conversation with the amic fraud. pele aut where we have been, itappening herin and in about the h times we have other states and it's unfortunate that more media been through, thprogress we're outlethaven't beenicking maki, and postmportaly what we wa tdo to rengthen manufacturing, cre >> this videotape is damagg d v. i feel sorry forhe girl. world and she's caught up in something she's probably not are of. before, some real strength and what are you doing to counter famili. th ground game out there? >> it's a good point.
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>> is the 47% comment the game changer so f? i feel badlyf for this woman because it sounds to me like she does the obama cpaigfeel was under ve strict orders to this really has put the ndt your back? not divulge who she was working for. this is a clear distinction whre goingo continue to about who cares about the 100% do iup until the election, and the 47%. make sure we turn them out the there's new pe from paul ryan that has surfaced. y an was in place.@á here's ryan talking about peopl assistance. >> colorado has en enly here it is. split r almo a generation. >> before too ng, would how cahelpn you resident obama become society we were never tended to be. win this election, to keep the state blue, and how crucial do we could become a society whe you think your state is? americans are takers and not >> is no doubt that corado makers, % of amerins want the american dream.theyelieve i a battleground state. we only have nine electoral votes, but we're confidentf we idea. only 30% wt the lfare ste. work t w >> doesn't had this show the american people what rney and going to gfor thesident. ryan thinkbout struggling americans? we have an iredie ground operation. we have 59 field offices open. >> absolutel my favorite ing is mitt romneye this is a neighbor to nehbor ca
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h >> ycerned about the i hope that mitt romney e gets a hispanic voter suppression republicans are doing? chance to elegantly state what and how important is that he said outh47% of the hispanic votto preside obama erican peot caring enough to takeesponsibily in this state? r their own situations i >> the hisnic vote is life.d i think, you kw,hat that incredibly important. it's importa in colorado and across the cntry. wsy to vote, but second, you have to take what tsuspecteabout or romney and paul ryan responsibili and ensure that you are registered to vote. if you think y are, go online and th is they don't really and make sure that you are care aut the middle class in registered. this country. they a not really concned because it is going to come down about and they certainly don to perhaps just several thousand un wharstandit's like to vote work hard and try to g ahe in the country. >> it's gointo be thatight? to play by the rules, but have a different set of rules for we had an election in 2010 with pele like s that's whathat tape did. senator michael bennett and his it crystallized fopele that reblican thiss not a grp that believes in middle economic recovery. 15,000 vote es. you never know. it's all about top down. >> all right. robert gibbs, greato have you with utonight "the ed you wi us. show." than so much
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remb to answer the q i want to thank everyone athe vernor twitter @edshow. there for the nbc esidential the roey camp ys they are debate eve watch party. prared for t7% cments. we're heading over there right can he reverse the dame? now. how." looking forward to it. the "the rachel maddow show" richard wolffe andlex wagner will join me next for the discussion. stay tuned ú2m
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> show mitt romney's 47% comments have te an toll. can tomorrow's debate be a game changer? iew, next.lffe and alex wagner e obama campaign launches a new ad targeting mitt romn's investment in china with bain capita we'lhave the responsand ta withhio senator sherrod brown. and a big day for swing state voters. early voting begins in ohio and a pennsylvania court b voter d. law. all the details. and on ttter using the #edshow.
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thanks for wching "the ed show." mitt romney is runng behind in the polls. he needs to bring his a game tomorrow night. does he has have a game? romney has an uphi climb on his hands. done some al damagto the campaign. is being given analysis by the americaneople. >> that infamous piece otape american peopl st poll shows just 23% of likely votersay romy's comments made th tnk more 45% said it madefeel more
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romn senior adviser ed gillese sa they are expecting the 47% remark to come up in tomorrow's date and is prepared to an it and address it. we believe the voters willee and appreciate the facat overnor romney'salking about uld improvthe ity ericans. joining me tonight is msnbc political analysrichd wolffe and host of "now with alex wagn",lex wagner. congratulations on your show. it's realltaken off. >> thank you, ed. >> there's dage here. mee polls owt. you can almost feel it. richard, how does heeverse the damage tomorrow night? >> if he'srte the debate as a c reintroduce himselto the american people. he blew that opporni
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conventions, but this isn't a moment for zingers. this ia moment about lainthe punch. no matter w mu me measured approach at thiss a conversation, this is a case where he sn communicatedhoe is and what he stands fo the problem in the context of the 47% what's bn the explaining narrative for everything you don't like about beyond tt and say this is who i really am. he's notust sayi w he is, but he's saying thguy i ink that guy. it's hard do in awo-mute response. >> alex, how aggive do you ink president obama should be with aover the distortions at have come from e romney where does it take the president tomorrow night? o i thi's no way the ntn the 47ing.
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prepared for. there's so many other things t president can take romney to task f. everytng from his recent comments abo amnesty for the childrenf documented workers, which is a veal from ear i his tax policy, which is thing everso confusing that there's no amount of time in which ul ryan or mitt romney specifics. if i were obama, t7% at the end of the day,he american public want specifics therd are a mberf policy items where the president is in a stng position. >> well, richard, find it amazinthat a couple days before the debate, wch is big atrm for mitt romney because of wt the polls are doinome up
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this tax plan that he fully can't explain.rk mentality.ction between thcaidates? >> the problem for theresident is he's debating a piecef jell every time he tries to close shape. position on prlife?es him a ver debate opponent if y think itbout engagement and everythinge ve h-]eard from 's about engement. that's what they wanto do. i think the president will take a different ta, which is ignore the oer side. speak to people in t living room about yourself. you may like him, yomay not like him, t you know who the president is. you can'say the othething is true about theer middle class being buried. here it is.
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ice president biden just today id that the middlelass ag. of crse,he middle class has been burie theyre being bied by g, they ar economic failures. the romney campaign is takingo. alex, will it work or is it st desperation? think it's a real whenever t romney campaign ies play on the same field the president and joe biden. nobodys a better surrogate, spe working and middle class than joe biden.ryan. that straighto camera sh,
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you saw th campaigns come out with ads. president obama isuch tt spker. he's more dict and communicates warh and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were e romney campaign, i woulstay with e fix it thing. everying ort ofoming out with mops and brooms and talkbout the ecomy. whever thetrine americttack, it never works for them. they fall flat and ialwa rings hollow. >> alex, richard, great to have th uyou wion "the ed show." coming u the obama campaign reld a new ad hammering mitt romney for outsourcing jo to a chinese any nditions durg his time at sherrod n will be joining me on that d other issues. and billioires are getting antsy about the possibility of president obama's reelecon. and th a starting to whine big're watching "thed " 
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welcome back t"t ed show." anks for watchin they had invested in global tech. it's a chinese-based company less than two weeks after the companomoted i inexpenve lar and low tax rate. mitt president and ceo of the brookside fund at the time. now just ahead of the first presidential debate, the obama caai has released this hard-hitting ad in several manufacturg and swing states.
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>> these appliances could have be made heamerren a, but a company called global tech maximizeprofits by paying employees next to nothing. wh saw it as a goodnvestmt even knowing that t firpromed its practice of low-wage lab mitt romney, tough on china? since >> a romney spokeswoman responded, this is another overard ad from a president s failure to stand up to chi. the statement goes on, but not once does it actually deny any of the charges against mitt she. good to have you with us tonight. i think this latest obama ad plays rit to the workers of ohio. mitt romney and bain capital other manufacturg states?t has
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how damagings this? >> it's been very damaging.en a explode. take auto parts.illi with china auto pts today it's $10 billion. that's why the president at th urging of a number of us, they have taken china to thworld trade organization to show china tariffs protectmerin seeing a pattern of the government finally othe side of workers, finally on the def american mufacring, a nenst china. havl mill. we're eing jobs actually come to this country or stay in this country cawe're anng up a enforci trade rules. >>omney and the republicans keep talng about another tax cut for the b crrs. profitsy
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outsourcinthisay? i mean, the model that romney coulit be good fororkersn ohio? well, it'not. cuts for thit doe't work. what works is when you buiheout. e au reshas worked in but re thathe percentage points ler than in 2010. we have more tire jobsmore l jobs, moluminum jobs i want the president to take one more steand that is anroey could help uwith this. th could pass my legislation inhe hou. we he passed it t senate to level t playingieldn chinese currency, the largest sete.tisan jobs bill tss the
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>> he hasn't. and the romney camp keeps coming ba. it'sassed theenate and boehner won't bring up inhe use. the obama campaign iout toda with a new ad about a campai op mitt roey made in ohio. i wa to get your reaction to it heret is >> the coal mine in thesads, tus out ey were told tt atan ory.y was, quotemandat their mineas clod, lt the d. commerci. >> employees fl th wer foed to go. they had to ta the day off hey had a li of who was the anwho wasn. th felt ey woun't have a job if they didn't go. >> on one handthe si mol iso outsource the jobs.
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the an>> nsurpri. i go bac if mitt romney would pick up the phoncall john bone in our effort, we're put this. 20 senators have snea come to ouasroots. put pressure on boehner. we'll schedu this trade china.emengisliofo in jobs. the stuff thatomney is talking about. >> you're not ing to get a leer from mitt romney. you have a greatdea, senator, buy caidatthat would use forc workers to be props in a aign, i wouldn't count on him foanhing lf hr. stay right her voter i.d., which isoing to allow mitt romney to win the state of penylvania, done. replican voter suppreion in pennsylvania isealt a death
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blow in the urts. but the eating goes onn colorado. toght an update on the voter aud scandal. rly vong starts today. today. >> t firstady isiring up  suorte as tewarm t polls. io early ving.the latest on billionairsupporters are complaining about the presid louder than ever.dership,ot crm. we need courement, not diourament >> tonight e.j. onnen the on me.
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r at least few years now, we have been told how president oba is jalienati wall street billionaires have got it so
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rough. they are going to turn agast him to make sure president obama isot reelected. you goto admit looks pretty strong in thpolls, some of these billioires are beginning whine a little bit. they d't le the environment what's happening. here's sam z >> how the, quote, 1% or t 10%, the top earners mov ahead of everydy. i wonder i coation between while they were mg ahead, the rest of the govement wassidizing, bsidizing more m people. i inthey are disinnte vised byf you dot pay fo that's thing you dot ve to worr about. >> he sounds le he could b sittinat mitt ey
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his disdain of the 47% is the same as mitt romy' he'sot the only algart complaining. leon cooperman, this hedge fund manager and former obama suorter, sd this, you know, the largest and greatest country in t free world put a 47-year-old guy at nev made himarge of the free and rld. not totay different from taking adolph hier in germany d ng him in charge of germany because people were is absolutely ssatisfied. pulsive. what arese billionaire upt about? the stk market is up or 100% since 2009. corporate profits arat an 18-yeahigh.
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in 5ars. better, but they hatobam beuse we might be going down new study says e sure mitt romney's health care pl wouldn't just take us back it the levels of uninsured americans that existed before obama care, itctuaould a make things woe. accoing to t fund, romney's plan would increase the numb to 72 million. i guess sam zellhinks that would give those peoplan en you're a billionae, you reavto worry about an, ytngou? let's turn te.j. dionne, msnbc contributoand author of the book "our divided polical hear" great have you with us tonit. it would seem to me if thereas one portion of our society quiet
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about the way things are going inur economy it would the wealthiest aricans. how does this play out? >> younow, this is very, ry strange and disrbing thin as you said. i mean the piece that's inspiring a lot of conversations about th is the wonderful piece in "the new yorkerwhic is a real document for oure. one of the things she says, she reports on sense of ctization among so many of america's wealthiest people. thefeel like the victims, io& guess all of the cntry ought to feeke what's amazing here is the anti-oba venom. let's back to mar of 2009. the economy, the whole system on twas vergef collapse thstocmarket was dow 6,000s. d ama made two decisions. one was to prop the thinup and keep it go alliance with other countries around the world and literally saved the fortunes
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but he made a second decision. there were progrves who t we sh more questions abo hget into th ple and president obama didn't gore because his advisers we worried if you push the system too hard, it might collap. d so here are folks whose founes were saved in significant part by the s polic are complaing because he you to. very strange. >> these guys got exactly wh th.need leadershiot criticism. until th scenario chans, i think the unit states is, quote, unquote, and i hate to use this word, in a malaise. >> what the hell is talking about?
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he's being criticized and president obama hasn't provided leadership. your thougs on this. of in that piece, she tes th 93 gains in the recovery of 210, % we009/20 to the top 1%. isn't that encragement enough? and what about encouragement to they couldt e a little buing up? itery weird to hav ri people feike victims. and beg very rich n't rld exactly e way they do. and i don't kn how any group of peoplcan expect that. for people like us who would say ch to finance. maybe we shoulgive more to manufacting more king people. that's just not true. so this is aemarkable pot we have come .
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>> it really is a rerkable point. the people that have gotten all the breaks, that have gotten the deregulation and tax breaks and the best tax rates they ve had in yea, they are complaining aboua president who not saying the rht things to him. i aznd it g. j., eat to have you with us. > coming up, early voting cked offn ohio today. things are looking goofor eside. we'll g u all of the laterothe buckeye state next. stay with us.
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